Week two scores

[CoachK]

Almira/Coulee-Hartline 38, Columbia-Inchelium 0.
Curlew 55, Northport 6.
Cusick 60, Wilbur-Creston 14.
Garfield-Palouse 42, Selkirk 0.
Salmon River 38, Colton 26.
Odessa-Harrington 40, LaCrosse-Washtucna 20
Oroville 56, Republic 8.
Kootenai 40, Lakeside (ID) 36.
Clark Fork 48, Mullan 28.
Tri-Cities Prep 64, Pomeroy 32.

[GridironBeez]

Almira/Coulee-Hartline 38, Columbia-Inchelium 0
Columbia-Inchelium 0 0 0 0 0
Almira/Coulee-Hartline 14 8 16 0 38

» Scoring
ACH - Deyarmin 17 pass from Issaak (Deyarmin from Issaak)
ACH - Hardy 21 pass from Issaak (run failed)
ACH - Hardy 16 pass from Issaak (Deyarmin run)
ACH - Hardy 17 pass from Issaak (Deyarmin run)
ACH - Issaak 70 run (Wellhausen pass from Issaak)


Curlew 55, Northport 6
Curlew 12 14 29 55
Northport 0 0 6 6

» Scoring
Cur - Drennon 62 run (kick failed)
Cur - Drennon 58 run (kick failed)
Cur - Drennon 48 run (kick failed)
Cur - Drennon 8 run (Somday run)
Cur - Drennon 80 run (Somday run)
Cur - Drennon 15 run (Drennon from Zerck)
Nor - Higgins 85 pass from Johnson (run failed)
Cur - Somday 8 run (Zerck kick)
Cur - Somday 32 run


Cusick 60, Wilbur-Creston 14
Cusick 22 24 6 8 60
Wilbur-Creston 0 8 0 6 14

» Scoring
Cus- Edwards 70 punt return (Edwards run)
Cus- Edwards 20 run (Edwards run)
Cus- Driver 4 run (run failed)
Cus- Edwards 12 run (Driver run)
Cus- Norton 15 pass from Edwards (Driver run)
WC- Johns 97 run (Johns run)
Cus- Driver 51 pass from Edwards (Bluff run)
Cus- Norton 25 pass from Edwards (run failed)
WC- Ogle 10 run (run failed)
Cus- Sample 65 kick off return (Edwards run)


Garfield-Palouse 42, Selkirk 0
Garfield-Palouse 14 6 14 8 42
Selkirk 0 0 0 0 0

» Scoring
GP- Hodges 5 run (Run)
GP- Lang 10 run (Kick Failed)
GP- Hodges 55 run (Pas Failed)
GP- Lang 5 run (Pass good)
GP- Floyd 35 run (Run good)
GP- Lang 4 run (Pass Good)


Salmon River 38, Colton 26
Salmon River 2 16 12 8 38
Colton 6 0 8 12 26

» Scoring


Odessa-Harrington 40, LaCrosse-Washtucna 20
Odessa-Harrington 14 6 14 6 40
LaCrosse-Washtucna 6 8 6 0 20

» Scoring
LW-Hostetler 71 pass Aune (run failed)
OH-Sperline 40 run (Spurline run)
OH-King 67 run (run failed)
LW-C.Hannes 62 run (Zimmer run)
OH-Sanford 41 run (pass failed)
OH-Sperline 41 interception return (run failed)
LW-Harder 32 pass from Aune (run failed)
OH-Sperline 58 run (pass failed)

Tri-Cities Prep 64, Pomeroy 32
By the Herald staff

POMEROY -- Troy Redmann rolled up 375 yards of total offense and scored four touchdowns for Tri-Cities Prep in the nonleague road win.

The Jaguars got a piece of bad news when sophomore quarterback Evan Whitsett, who threw for 329 yards and four touchdowns and ran for two more, suffered what is believed to be a fractured collarbone late in the third quarter.

Tri-Cities Prep 18 16 14 16 -- 64

Pomeroy 6 20 0 6 -- 32

SCORING PLAYS
FIRST HALF
TCP--Evan Whitsett 15 run (run failed)
TCP--Troy Redmann 3 pass Whitsett (pass failed)
P--Austin Reisdorph 55 run (run failed)
TCP--Whitsett 1 run (run failed)
P--Tory Knebel 51 run (run failed)
P--Knebel 13 run (run good)
TCP--Redmann 62 pass from Whitsett (Redmann from Whitsett pass)
TCP--Redmann 23 pass from Whitsett (Redmann from Whitsett pass)
P--Knebel 55 run (pass failed)
SECOND HALF
TCP--Anthony Hinkson 66 run (Whitsett run)
TCP--Redmann 43 pass from Whitsett (pass failed)
TCP--Hinkson 7 run (Redmann run)
P--Knebel 43 run (pass failed)
TCP--Jarrod Ver Steeg 30 pass from Redmann (Redmann run)

STATISTICS

RUSHING--TCP, Redmann 6-135, Anthony Hinkson 5-93, Evan Whitsett 9-56, Chris Yakawich 4-19. P, Knebel 22-257, Reisdorph 15-118, Matt Wolf 4-6.

PASSING--TCP, Whitsett 20-25-0-329, Redmann 1-1-0-30. P, Wolf 5-16-1-62.

RECEIVING--TCP, Redmann 12-240, Jarrod Ver Steeg 5-72, Jacob Schmidt 2-38, Jameson Petersen 3-36. P, Tory Knebel 3-39, Matt Fitzgerald 1-12, Wolf 1-15, John Ashley 1-11.

FUMBLES-LOST--TCP 2-0, P 2-1. PENALTIES-YARDS--TCP 11-95, P 4-20.

Read more: www.tri-cityherald.com/2010/09/11/1164387/tri-cities-prep-64-pomeroy-32.html#ixzz0zFuSQRAi


Touchet 40, Condon 14
By the Herald staff

CONDON, Ore. -- Senior quarterback Jake Hodnefield threw two passes for TD and ran for another in the first half as Touchet ran out to a 20-0 halftime and never looked back.

Touchet 8 12 12 8 -- 40

Condon 0 0 0 14 -- 14

SCORING PLAYS

T--Matt Kates 10 pass from Jake Hodnefield (run good)
T--Hodnefield 37 run (pass failed)
T--Preciado 9 pass from Hodnefield


Read more: www.tri-cityherald.com/2010/09/11/1164402/touchet-40-condon-14.html#ixzz0zFvJmysT

[LoggerPride]

Final from Joyce:

Crescent 46

Clallam Bay 22

[JLPB]

Here's a score for you: Lummi 119, Wellpinit 74. The score was 83-48 at the half and ended with five minutes to go in the third quarter!!! due to the 45 point rule. Great defense, huh?? ;D

Wellpinit ran 6 kickoffs back for touchdowns.

[CoachK]

Quilcene 50, Highland Christian 0
Neah Bay 70, Evergreen Lutheran 32

www.peninsuladailynews.com/article/20100912/news/309129974/sports-crescent-wins-opener-other-prep-football-results

[CoachK]

Sept 12, 2010 9:28:18 GMT -5 JLPB said:

Here's a score for you: Lummi 119, Wellpinit 74. The score was 83-48 at the half and ended with five minutes to go in the third quarter!!! due to the 45 point rule. Great defense, huh?? ;D

Wellpinit ran 6 kickoffs back for touchdowns.

Game was set up for a scoring fest (score, let the other team score (substitute just enough to keep it close), and so on). It's not that both team can't play defense--they could with starting players in the game. If things would have gone right the score would have been 200 + to 170 something.
Forget scouting a game like this.........
Here is the write - up:
www.bellinghamherald.com/2010/09/11/1614678/prep-football-lummi-scores-119.html

[GridironBeez]

Sept 12, 2010 11:06:33 GMT -5 CoachK said:

Sept 12, 2010 9:28:18 GMT -5 JLPB said:

Here's a score for you: Lummi 119, Wellpinit 74. The score was 83-48 at the half and ended with five minutes to go in the third quarter!!! due to the 45 point rule. Great defense, huh?? ;D

Wellpinit ran 6 kickoffs back for touchdowns.

Game was set up for a scoring fest (score, let the other team score (substitute just enough to keep it close), and so on). It's not that both team can't play defense--they could with starting players in the game. If things would have gone right the score would have been 200 + to 170 something.
Forget scouting a game like this.........
Here is the write - up:
www.bellinghamherald.com/2010/09/11/1614678/prep-football-lummi-scores-119.html

I hate these kind of games to be honest. Records should never happen in these situations....play the game straight up, play your subs when appropriate, run the football when appropriate and let it go the way it should. A game like this doesn't do 8-man football any favors for respect.

I have seen high scoring 8-man games before and not end in the 45 point rule. Almost always it is because the two teams have good to great athletes on offense and good/great offensive teams overall. In 8-man a great offensive team will beat a great defensive team every time because of the space (coach K may disagree with me but his championship team always had a better defense then any offense he faced) on the field.

Playing a JV defense and varsity offense just creates situations like this game. Who really benefits from this? This is just my opinion and it may be a little strong for some (especially those involved) but it is how I feel. I respect those that disagree with me, but I stay put in my opinion on the matter.

[mav92]

Sunnyside Christian 28 King's Way Christian 6

[CoachK]

Sept 12, 2010 13:10:34 GMT -5 GridironBeez said:

Sept 12, 2010 11:06:33 GMT -5 CoachK said:

Game was set up for a scoring fest (score, let the other team score (substitute just enough to keep it close), and so on). It's not that both team can't play defense--they could with starting players in the game. If things would have gone right the score would have been 200 + to 170 something.
Forget scouting a game like this.........
Here is the write - up:
www.bellinghamherald.com/2010/09/11/1614678/prep-football-lummi-scores-119.html

I hate these kind of games to be honest. Records should never happen in these situations....play the game straight up, play your subs when appropriate, run the football when appropriate and let it go the way it should. A game like this doesn't do 8-man football any favors for respect.

I have seen high scoring 8-man games before and not end in the 45 point rule. Almost always it is because the two teams have good to great athletes on offense and good/great offensive teams overall. In 8-man a great offensive team will beat a great defensive team every time because of the space (coach K may disagree with me but his championship team always had a better defense then any offense he faced) on the field.

Playing a JV defense and varsity offense just creates situations like this game. Who really benefits from this? This is just my opinion and it may be a little strong for some (especially those involved) but it is how I feel. I respect those that disagree with me, but I stay put in my opinion on the matter.

I agree Crazy 8. We always had a great Defensive coach (not me) & talented kids that could play hard hitting Logger "D" and capable of scoring as many points as the offense.

The 2010 Loggers are small aggressive kids who aren't afraid to lay a hit on someone---mostly 9th-10th graders. If they can get more kids turning out (only suited 10 kids for the CB game) they will be tough to beat in the next 2 or 3 years. The test for them will be out at Neah Bay Friday night.

[wvhsfan]

Thats just not right, ive watched many games where the score could have been ran up, i havnt even watched many high school bastketball games where the score was that high, is this a new sport developing, because a football game with-out defense is not football, its a track meet with points

[NW8MAN.COM]

WOW, thats not right! Who were they trying to impress? b/c im not and im pretty sure most of the coaches are not, any team can put up that many points when theres no defense on the field! there is a little statistic called "POINTS ALLOWED" , which may not be all that important, but now will not indicate a true number, just a showboat event, I DO NOT RESPECT THIS!

[chitwhin20]

I agree Crazy. Technically no rules are being broken when this happens, but c'mon. It makes the record books look ridiculus. Full of inflated numbers that don't mean anything. This is exactly how the Lummi QB set all of those records a few years ago. This is not new for this team, just more pronounced. When a team that hasn't scored 40 pts all season puts up 40 on the best team on the west side of the state, just so they can score 85 and throw for 700 yds, sportsmanship is lacking. Especially when the offensive starters never come out. I also agree that this hurts 8 man football as a whole. It makes us look like a sideshow. I was told a story today from an old timer about a Pacific League coach pulling his team off of the field several years ago when a team tried to pull this against his team. I would do the same. I wouldn't have any part of it even as the losing team.

[Panorama Fan]

I think there is more to it. How about Lummi just trying to make the game last longer since Wellpinit traveled over 8 hours to get there? Of course they could of ended it earlier, we do have a highly ranked team playing a unranked team. There was very good sportsmanship on and off the field by both teams. Both teams played all of their players a lot. I think the kids learned alot. The Lummi players spent a lot of time with the Wellpinit players, eating dinner, breakfast together, playing xbox together the morning of the game. Maybe the game was a small part of the lesson that the players learned that weekend. Speaking of records though I have seen some very good teams keep their starting running back, QB, etc. in a blow out game. They will put in other players but they are doing the same thing for their stats. How about basketball? It is very common to see blowout games. Should those points not count for a players overall scoring? Also as far as to a team that hasn't scored 40 pts all season-this was their second game, their first game I believe they had 34 points.

[NW8MAN.COM]

I think that chitwin20 is speaking about the validity of the stats, if all this you speak of is true, thats great but, throw out the stats! I wouldnt want my hard earned record thrown by the waste side because some coach wanted to prolong a game for a visiting team, this is just my opinion, but i believe it hurts the institution of 8 man football as a whole!

[chitwhin20]

The 40 point comment wasn't this year. If I was refering to this game I would have said 74. The point is this team has a history of this. It's one thing to extend a game by playing your bottom players. It's another to allow a lesser team to return 6 kickoffs for TD, so u can toss your offense back on the field, as was suggested earlier in the thread. Hoops is a tough analogy because there is no mercy rule, but I understand your position. I just think that it's bad for the sport.

[Panorama Fan]

Every year there is a very good idea who is going to dominate their league. Should we not allow the top level teams play the bottom level? Should those stats of any 45 pt mercy rule games not count? I'm just saying it was a good opportunity for a westside team play a eastside team. Maybe next year the two predicted top teams should play this game. Sometimes a game is just played for fun and I think this is what that game was played for. But it is still a football game, and for the players who worked hard on the field their stats should still count. My son played at a school a few years ago where they dominated their league. We knew going to the game it was going to be either a 45 point blowout or a game with a lot of subs. When those game went to the end, starting varsity players were still playing. Pretty much the same thing as this game, but of course it was a lot faster paced. Lummi definetly is quick, and Wellpinit has some fast players also.

[chitwhin20]

I do love it when kids get an opportunity to make these long over night road trips and hang out with kids from a different school and build new friendships. It's a great experience. It's too bad it can't happen more. Travel is expensive, and schools don’t have a ton of money to toss around.

[chitwhin20]

45 point games are going to happen all the time. disparties can be huge. A couple of years ago in our League we had a 2nd place team who 45'd the 3rd place team, who 45'd the 4th place team, who 45'd the 5th place team. That is a HUGE disparity between the 2nd and 5th place teams, let alone the 6th, 7th, and 8th teams. Would it be OK for the one of the top teams to artificially allow a game to continue by allowing the low team score uncontested points? To me, that is what is being questioned here. If everyone plays hard and a game is a blowout, so be it.

[GridironBeez]

Sept 14, 2010 11:52:26 GMT -5 Panorama Fan said:

Every year there is a very good idea who is going to dominate their league. Should we not allow the top level teams play the bottom level? Should those stats of any 45 pt mercy rule games not count? I'm just saying it was a good opportunity for a westside team play a eastside team. Maybe next year the two predicted top teams should play this game. Sometimes a game is just played for fun and I think this is what that game was played for. But it is still a football game, and for the players who worked hard on the field their stats should still count. My son played at a school a few years ago where they dominated their league. We knew going to the game it was going to be either a 45 point blowout or a game with a lot of subs. When those game went to the end, starting varsity players were still playing. Pretty much the same thing as this game, but of course it was a lot faster paced. Lummi definetly is quick, and Wellpinit has some fast players also.

To be honest, most 45 point blowouts HURT individual statistics more often then they help them. You will see a top player (say RB for example) get 3 to 10 carries and 100 to 120 yards instead of 20 plus carries and 200 plus yards he would normally get against better teams. You see this all the time. Even in a close loss against a good team you see a top RB get his carries and often 200 plus yards because he is good and it is 8-man football.

On good to great teams their players play few quarters and have less overall statistics because they are removed from the game and back-ups are inserted to prevent 45'ing teams and game ending at halftime. Some teams just end it because they may have a full JV schedule and even those teams only rack up so many yards in scoring an average of 7 touchdowns in 45 point wins by half. If an average play is even 50 yards per those 7 touchdowns then that is still only 350 total yards. This is assuming that no kick-offs or punt returns are ran back for td's (which is usually rare if not in these situations). If the top player on the team accounts for 75 percent of these yards (starters not pulled) then that is still just 262 yards are nowhere near any kind of record in any category.

My two and a half cents worth...

[NW8MAN.COM]

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